I will ask the Sirens themselves when they return and make sure they are fine. I simply wanted to make sure there was not a lot of trauma and suffering afterwards, which it does not sound like there was potentially. What did everyone have to sacrifice?
I'm not sure. I honestly didn't ask anyone. I didn't even check on Jewel beyond making sure he wasn't physically injured.
[ there also good reason for that but he's not going to bog Friday down with that. ]
I know some people sacrificed their permanence, which if I understood correctly means we don't remember them right now. There were some people claiming to have been on this boat longer than me, but that's not possible since I've been here since the start of it. So my guess is we just didn't cross paths until later and we know each other.
Not sure, sorry ... I just watched him briefly from a distance.
But, everyone lost something in this performance, win or lose, so he's probably missing something. I'm sure he knows what it is, you can ask him. I think he and a few other Sirens were heading back when I left. So if they're not there yet they should be any minute.
Yeah, I think Phoenix's was a bit messy, and I don't want to mistakenly come off like I'm accusing him of trying to get himself hurt to protect everyone else, so I haven't approached him on it. Luckily, I know lots of people will look out for him, so I can just observe from a distance for now and he'll explain what happened later. I assume he doesn't fully understand just yet, either, as some people got unexpected results with what they sacrificed.
Goose is a little kid... ? Not sure what happened there... and Heron seemed okay. I was with him in an instance, but I'm not sure who else and what else he sacrificed.
At least we know he did not sacrifice whatever the maximum was since you and I still remember him. Though now I am wondering if it is possible there is someone on this ship that I have forgotten.
How would we even know they are a part of our family without a roster?
I will check it after just to make sure all of Siren is accounted for at least. I would not want anyone to feel neglected or invisible because of something we had no control over. Did everyone know that was a possibility by participating?
No. But anyone who's dealing with it, I'm pretty sure, understands that it's part of the sacrifice they agreed to even if they didn't know about it even as a possibility ahead of time.
I wonder if that would have changed the course of their sacrifices had they known. I would not wish to be forgotten by those I care about nor would I wish to give up my memories, even the worst of them.
You're busy with yours first, too, right? So when you're done, I should be done with mine. I think you have a lot more to deal with than I do. Disorder won for lowest sacrifice score, afterall.
I am sure it is better that they did not win by going all out this time. Though the fact that two families won for least sacrifices is unexpected. I suppose there is wisdom in restraint, and that was what was rewarded.
"sometimes the small sacrifices can mean as much as the large ones," the producer said, and the recognition of this was a means to win.
Still wasn't very straightforward. We knew we could win by lowest value average, but it was unclear what you'd suffer for losing your individual round since each car wasn't collaborative. The safest bet was to tie with your opponent or go all out because at least you knew what would happen if you chose the sacrifice yourself...well, supposedly knew, anyway.
Point is, the producer could have been a real bastard and caused a lot of harm to everyone both in the sacrifices and in punishing individual losses, even if overall it could result in a win for their team.
Was proud to see Siren's show restraint here [ (... well, they kinda did at least...??) ]
...but also, kinda sus competitive nature is gonna make you all go turbo hard to compensate next time.
We will not... We have been trying to be more prudent about our choices to account for the members who are less willing to put everything on the line for victory especially since they tend to be outvoted.
I at least do not want to get hurt myself if it means others will suffer because of it.
... hurting yourself to win is still better than hurtful yourself to try and protect other Families, as far as I'm concerned. Don't let things accidentally fall to other extreme, okay?
I'm really worried about you with that group, even though I know your decisions are yours. I don't like you going hard, either, but I can get behind going hard to try and protect yourself and your Family from something worse, even if you guys could probably still win with less self-punishment.
What if it means protecting you? I do not want to be the reason something terrible happens to you. The other version of me was so desperate to save and protect everyone that he would trap them in an eternal dream where he would be the only one who would never sleep so he can control the dream.
I feel his desperation a lot of the time and the same ache in his heart when he witnesses someone suffering.
I really want you to protect yourself first in that situation, too, but... I'll never hate or resent you for your choice. Those moments are really hard to act rationally.
I'll do my absolute best to prioritize myself in this sort of case, though, if it means that much to you. Promise. My goal is to make you hurt the least amount for the shortest time, and I know how it can be far more painful to deal with someone else getting hurt or even killed because they wanted to "protect" you.
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But if you want to know the winners for a general guess: Sun Sign won for giving the biggest sacrifices. Disorder and Eonia won for having the least.
Maybe everyone in between after Sirens and Forge would be worth checking, not sure who you are specifically worried or not worried about.
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I simply wanted to make sure there was not a lot of trauma and suffering afterwards, which it does not sound like there was potentially.
What did everyone have to sacrifice?
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[ there also good reason for that but he's not going to bog Friday down with that. ]
I know some people sacrificed their permanence, which if I understood correctly means we don't remember them right now. There were some people claiming to have been on this boat longer than me, but that's not possible since I've been here since the start of it. So my guess is we just didn't cross paths until later and we know each other.
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Even if he was not physically injured, did he seem to be behaving strangely or lacking memories?
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But, everyone lost something in this performance, win or lose, so he's probably missing something. I'm sure he knows what it is, you can ask him. I think he and a few other Sirens were heading back when I left. So if they're not there yet they should be any minute.
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I will let him rest and recover then ask him about it later
along with the other Sirens.
You should focus on your own family if they were there with you.
Did they also emerge intact?
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Goose is a little kid... ? Not sure what happened there... and Heron seemed okay. I was with him in an instance, but I'm not sure who else and what else he sacrificed.
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Though now I am wondering if it is possible there is someone on this ship that I have forgotten.
How would we even know they are a part of our family without a roster?
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I'm pretty sure I've forgotten at least one person.
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I would not want anyone to feel neglected or invisible because of something we had no control over.
Did everyone know that was a possibility by participating?
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I would not wish to be forgotten by those I care about nor would I wish to give up my memories, even the worst of them.
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Though the fact that two families won for least sacrifices is unexpected.
I suppose there is wisdom in restraint, and that was what was rewarded.
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Still wasn't very straightforward. We knew we could win by lowest value average, but it was unclear what you'd suffer for losing your individual round since each car wasn't collaborative. The safest bet was to tie with your opponent or go all out because at least you knew what would happen if you chose the sacrifice yourself...well, supposedly knew, anyway.
Point is, the producer could have been a real bastard and caused a lot of harm to everyone both in the sacrifices and in punishing individual losses, even if overall it could result in a win for their team.
Was proud to see Siren's show restraint here [ (... well, they kinda did at least...??) ]
...but also, kinda sus competitive nature is gonna make you all go turbo hard to compensate next time.
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We have been trying to be more prudent about our choices to account for the members who are
less willing to put everything on the line for victory
especially since they tend to be outvoted.
I at least do not want to get hurt myself if it means others will suffer because of it.
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I'm really worried about you with that group, even though I know your decisions are yours. I don't like you going hard, either, but I can get behind going hard to try and protect yourself and your Family from something worse, even if you guys could probably still win with less self-punishment.
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I do not want to be the reason something terrible happens to you.
The other version of me was so desperate to save and protect everyone that he would
trap them in an eternal dream where he would be the only one who would never sleep so he can control the dream.
I feel his desperation a lot of the time and the same ache in his heart when he witnesses someone suffering.
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but who can say what is in the mind of those hosting these performers?
Some are more sadistic than others...
I hope if it ever comes to you and me, you prioritize yourself first,
but I cannot stop you if you do not nor will I hate you for it.
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I'll do my absolute best to prioritize myself in this sort of case, though, if it means that much to you. Promise. My goal is to make you hurt the least amount for the shortest time, and I know how it can be far more painful to deal with someone else getting hurt or even killed because they wanted to "protect" you.
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